Supyan: ''Before declaring the Caucasus Emirate, more important words
Kavkaz Center has interviewed a
Naib of Emir (deputy Emir) of Mujahideen in Caucasus Supyan Abdullayev.
Naib Supyan talks about the main point in the famous declaration of the
Emirate by Emir Dokka Abu Usman, about widespread religious deviances in
the Muslim world, about state symbols and borders of the Caucasus
Emirate, about the final fate of Russian military bases in Caucasus,
about the prospect of negotiations with disbelievers, and about the dear
price Palestinian people pay for Hamas delusions.
The polemics that erupted in connection with the statement of
declaration of the Caucasus Emirate by Emir Dokka Abu Usman has
gradually subsided. During a short period of time, people came to know
who was who.
Many of those who positioned themselves as proponents of Ichkeria's
independence, had been revealed as hardcore opponents of Sharia. As we
see now, some of them hurried to go over to the camp of Kadyrovite
All this time they have been spreading many conjectures and slanders,
and particularly, tried to present the case as though there existed some
disagreements between the Mujahideen, concerning the declaration of the
They put into circulation such words like "Emiratians" and "green
commissars". True, supporters of Mujahideen did not leave it unanswered,
calling our opponents "democrats" and "democratians". Has the position
of the Mujahideen on this issue changed?
Position of the Mujahideen is clear from multiple video appearances and
statements of the Mujahideen themselves. This position has not changed,
and will not change, all the more under criticism from scared refugees.
And all those words like "Emiratians", "commissars" etc. show only what
fills heads of those people, how far they are from Islam. They are ill
with hypocrisy. They are not offended or insulted at all, when they are
called "democrats", rather the contrary, they are pleased. Such far they
are from Jihad and the Mujahideen. Therefore I don't see any sense in
carrying on polemics with them.
I would like to draw attention to
another issue, which is forgotten in the heat of the debate. After
reading articles and watching video materials which were sent to us from
Europe and Turkey, I have noticed that the debates are going on
specifically around the declaration of the Emirate. And it was thrust by
our opponents with a purpose. But our Emir, before declaring the
Caucasus Emirate, said in his address more important words. Much more
important words, that are a matter of principle.
Namely, he said that he rejected
everything established by Taghut. He rejected its judgment, its laws,
its institutions, borders that it defined for Muslim peoples, the form
of government that it imposed. I. e., he said what Allah ordered in the
Quran. He said words that can't be interpreted in two ways, words that
are clear and understandable to any believer.
The declaration of the Caucasus
Emirate became just a logical continuation if the stated position. It
was a natural political addition to the basis, to the essence of the
statement itself. The statement itself tells about the adherence to
monotheism, to Tawhid. It is Tawhid that demands from us rejection of
any Taghut. And our verbal rejection means nothing, if there is no
action behind it. Because the Religion, first of all, is action.
KC: Yes, and this action caused many
reproaches and accusations of destroying the statehood, CRI etc.?
Rather, the well-being of those who parasitized on the Chechen issue was
destroyed. Even a person inexperienced in politics understands that
Jihad cannot be led by a president, a chancellor, a speaker or a crown
prince. Jihad is led by an Imam or an Emir.
After a long period of time under the
disbelievers' yoke we have become confused so much, that we even don't
know where our Religion ends and religion of disbelievers begins.
Therefore there is a warning for us in the Quran:
"O you who believe! If you obey those who
disbelieve, they will send you back on your heels, and you will turn
back (from Faith) as losers"
(Surat Al 'Imran, 3:149).
We have mixed everything, and did it long ago. We talk about prayer,
fasting, Sharia, and at the same time we celebrate "new year", birthday,
refer to the international law, U.N. charter and other abnormalities...
Moreover, when a Muslim is reproached
for consuming wine, he does not deny that it is a sin, that it is
forbidden. But when he is told, that participating in Olympic games is
shirk, idolatry, he is surprised and starts to ask, how is it possible
and what is so bad about it, because it is just a peaceful
KC: Yes, in general, it is clear, but
nevertheless, explain, what is so bad about it?
Well, think yourselves, here they go and start a fire on mount Olympus
in Greece, it becomes "holy", so many people hustle and conjure around
it, it is carried through several thousand kilometers, through many
countries, to the country where the games are appointed [to happen].
Finally, at exactly the appointed time, it is brought to the main gas
burner and a universal donkeys' roar of delight shakes the air.
Then representatives of different
Muslim countries, Tunisia, Morocco, Egypt, Turkey and others, mix with
disbelievers and perform the ritual walk around a stadium, under that
fire. At the latest Olympic games in Beijing, Saudi Arabia was walking
either first or second in that column.
What is interesting, if all those
Muslim delegations were asked to participate in the Easter procession,
they would refuse. They would say that it is a Christian holiday, we are
not allowed. But circumambulation around the "holy" Olympic fire turns
out to be a different matter. It turns out that according to their
deviant understanding, it is allowed to do that.
Take notice that Saudi Arabia likes
to position itself as a follower of monotheism. It struggles against
amulets, worshiping of graves, stones, trees and other manifestations of
idolatry. But they allowed themselves Olympic games and Olympic fire.
Obviously, for political benefits, so to speak.
KC: Many people wonder, how borders of
the Emirate are determined? What are state symbols?
The flag is the one that is usually in the background when our Emir Abu
Usman appears. It is the black flag with the white inscription of
formula of Faith. This flag is raised by Mujahideen in every corner of
the Muslim world. We have the seal of the Emir.
There will be no anthem, no
constitution, no coat of arms or other nonsense. We do not intend to
become "subjects of international law". We will not play those games any
more. We already passed through this, it was a false path, a path of
KC: But nevertheless, we somehow have
to determine the borders. Because Sharia should be established on a
specific territory, as far as I understand?
Yes, it is true. Exactly, now we are establishing Sharia in the
territory under our control. And it is forest and mountains from sea to
sea. And it is our territory, inshaAllah! We have reinterpreted many
KC: But it is a relative control.
Yes, relative, the same way as disbelievers and apostates have the
relative control over the plain part of Caucasus. Control is always
relative during a war.
Regarding the borders I will say so.
People like to prove their historical right for some lands and
territories. All conflicts between so called "minor" peoples are caused
by those borders.
KC: But those conflicts were thrust
upon by the imperial policy.
Even if there would be no imperial policy, territorial disputes would
not end. As far I remember, even between villages there were constant
discords over those borders.
But the borders of the Emirate are a
different issue. Emir Abu Usman clearly indicated is his address, that
he was not going to determine the borders of the Emirate right now. This
issue is open.
KC: Elaborate, please.
I elaborate, the issue of the Emirate borders, or, more exactly, the
issue of preliminary borders of the Emirate, this issue will be solved
after the first truce with the disbelievers.
It means that we intend to hold as
much territory, as much we will have strength [to do it], and inshaAllah,
we are accumulating it, the strength, and will accumulate. If we will
not have strength, then there is no sense to draw any borders at all.
KC: Do you think that the Kremlin
clique will negotiate with the Mujahideen and offer peace? But they have
built more than six major military installations in the territory of
Nokhchicho. Around 300 thousand troops are concentrated on permanent
basis inside Ichkeria and around. They will hardly resort to
Regarding major military installations and all Russian military with
their families, they are not a power now, but a vulnerable target. Any
regular army becomes a target during guerilla warfare, both at
stationing locations and on the move.
And at a moment of a serious
political crisis these major military installations will become
hostages, like it already happened, when the leader of the Chechen
people Jokhar Dudayev came to power. So it is not yet known, who will
inherit those installations and military bases in the end.
Regarding the negotiations... One of
the main results of the right creed are the right reasoning, right
understanding and evaluation of what is going on.
We don't have a right to offer peace
to disbelievers. It was a major error in our previous policy. Because
Allah warns in the Quran:
"So be not weak and ask not for peace, while
you are having the upper hand. Allah is with you, and will never
decrease the reward of your good deeds."
(Surat Muhammad, 47:35).
Therefore offering peace to
disbelievers is ruled out. But it is also said in the Quran:
"But if they incline to peace, you also incline
to it, and (put your) trust in Allah. Verily, He is the All-Hearer, the
(Surat al-Anfal, 8:61).
And they will offer it. But we will not accept any peace. Disbelievers
usually offer peace in exchange for rejection of Sharia by Muslims. They
say: "We will not bomb and kill you, if you would
accept our laws".
KC: So, any deals from our side at the
expense of the Religion are ruled out?
Exactly! This is the right formulation of the question. The war, its
goals, results we want to achieve, are now reinterpreted. For the time
being, we have been fighting defensive Jihad. But, inshaAllah, the time
approaches when we will give disbelievers an ultimatum for their
spreading of filth and corruption on earth.
KC: There is a question on the tip of
the tongue again: nevertheless, what do you think, will there be at
least northern borders of the Emirate?
A Chechen byword is crossing my mind now: "Yetti, yetti, ghiba vakqa iza",
or "Ghiba vallats tokha tsunna". The meaning of this expression is:
"Beat him, till he crosses Ghoba", or "till he goes across Ghoba".
People usually keep saying so, when they advise to physically punish
disobedient children or irrepressible brawlers.
Many people do not ponder over the
meaning, do not understand, what it means. The point is that Ghoba is
Kuban. So our ancestors already preliminarily defined where to chase
[the disbelievers]. But I am saying it by the way. We are going to chase
the enemy more farther than Ghoba.
The main thing is that we and all
those who sympathize with us, should understand, that we don't play
anymore in "international law", "sovereignty" or "peaceful coexistence"
with disbelievers. Such understanding about the world, relying on anyone
or anything besides Allah, led Muslims to multiple sufferings.
KC: Yes, unfortunately, the examples
are not so hard to find. It is unpleasant to listen to political
pronouncements of Hamas leaders. SubhanAllah, they are relying on the
West, on the European Union, on Obama! Trying to emphasize their
adherence to democracy, they reached a point when they handed over a
Mujahid to Egyptian secret services, calling him an "al-Qaeda member".
Delusions and illusions of Hamas cost dearly to the Palestinian people.
The Zionists have been committing outrage in that land for 60 years,
they have been exterminating Muslims in most barbaric way. The Zionists
regularly bomb and attack, carry out punitive raids and large-scale
military operations. At the same time, Hamas has not organized
elementary bomb shelters for the people. It means that they did not
prepare for a serious war. And you know, there is no such corner in the
Muslim world, that would be so unanimously stuffed with money by Arab
KC: In the end, what would you wish to
young Mujahideen and those who sympathize with our fight?
I would like to remind myself, in the first place, and then to all our
brothers, that the main purpose of our life is to deserve pleasure of
Allah. To remember, that victory is the same temptation, as is defeat.
Therefore victory should not cause high opinion of ourselves, and defeat
should not drive to despair.
The path is chosen, and we will not
turn away from it. If the goal of Jihad is elevating the Word of Allah,
then we should strain every effort just for that. And the result is with
Allah, praise be to Him, the Most High.
28 Feb 2009 - KavKaz Center